The
Yes Campaign has posted the reasons for voting yes.
Below
is my response
Efficiency
The loss of the
Constables will weaken opposition to the current proposals for a centralised
property tax. This proposal will cost Islanders more than the current rates
system, and be set by the Treasury Minister, not Parishioners.
A yes or no vote will
make no difference to what is only a proposal and thankfully is most unlikely to
get past the starting post.
Parish Rates have
remained steady for 10 years. Without an effective Parish Administration
bureaucracy will increase, stifling business in Jersey , and increasing the
burden on the individual Ratepayer.
A red herring. Parish Administration is good and the Connetables are to be complemented but there is no justification to claim that by voting No will lead to an increase in bureaucracy. Parish Rates is down to the effective Parish administration and from close scrutiny
by parishioners who have a direct say in parish expenditure at the annual rates
meetings
If the Constables
are removed from the States, they will either have to be paid by their Parishes
or not at all. This creates an imbalance and without pay the only people who
will stand will be those with the time and money to afford it. It also risks
destabilising the whole honorary system should one office holder receive
remuneration and the others not.
Voting No does remove
the right of Connetables sitting in the States only their automatic right. It
will be for the electorate to decide whether they think their Connetable is
worthy of a States seat.
The Connetable is head
of the HONORARY parish system where many parishioners give freely of their time.
Whilst some already receive an allowance from their Parish if they
feel they need to be paid for carrying out their duties then it will be for the
Parishioners to decide.
Ask yourself how
effective the administration of your Parish is compared with the States of
Jersey, and would you want to remove this efficiency from your Government and
Assembly?
The referendum is not
about parish efficiency
Community
Through their
political role, the Constables can interact with Parishioners and work as part
of a support network. The loss of the Constables in the States will undoubtedly
lead to a significant weakening of the Parish system – as has been the case in Guernsey for many years.
Sadly Parish
Assemblies are poorly attended so there is very little interaction. Apart from
St Mary’s the other 11 Connetables have not had to contest an election yet not
one of them has organised a parish meeting to discuss the Referendum. Where is
the interaction?
Constables have been
identified as the future for ‘e-Government’ interaction as well as care and the
community. This cannot happen if they are not in the States Assembly.
Where is the evidence?
Most of the Connetables are yet to master the art of uploading their manifestos
on to the Vote.je website.
Through the Parish
Assembly, and being available at the Parish Hall, the Constable is uniquely
placed to be able to understand the concerns of their parishioners. These
concerns are taken to the States Assembly directly, through the political role
of the Constable. This cannot be replaced.
Again where is the
evidence to support this claim? There is however ample evidence to show how few
questions, propositions and amendments have been lodged by the Connetables. What
does not exist does not need to be replaced.
Accountability
The Constables are
continually accountable to the Parishioners through the Parish Assembly as well
as the ballot box. No other type of States Member is. Parishioners, by the
ancient law of Requête can force a Parish Assembly to be called.
The outcome of the
Referendum will not change the present arrangement. Surely all elected members are
accountable at the ballot box.
Most Deputies do not
represent the Parishes in the States. Where is the evidence?
They are elected in their own districts, on the basis of their political views.
Each Parish, as a corporate body, is represented in the States by its Constable
similar to the way each Department is represented by its Minister.
I find the above to be
an odd claim. As a former Deputy I considered my self to be a representative of
my Parishioners in both Parish and Island affairs. I would have
thought that principle applied to my Connetable as well.
The removal of the
Constables has the potential to de-stabilise Jersey ’s Government. The
Finance Industry requires confidence in government. Radical changes in the
structure of government could damage confidence at a time of economic
uncertainty.
I can only repeat that
the Referendum is to seek the public’s views as to whether the Connetables
should have an automatic right to a seat. Removing the potential of the
Connetable’s block vote might concentrate the minds of the Council of Ministers
but that might be one of the positives from a No vote.
There is a
suggestion that Constables have a “block vote”. While they may vote the same
way, they do so as individuals bringing Parish concerns to the assembly.
Statistics show that Senators vote the same way as Constables do, but this goes
unremarked. It is worth noting that a Party System would be one in which Party
members had to vote the same way and take the agreed Party line. That would be
a real “block vote”.
The above claim is not
supported by the facts.
Reform
Constables have
proven they are reforming States Members. They led the way towards a single
election day, a four year term and spring elections. They also removed their
own policing powers. Without them reform becomes more difficult to achieve.
Quite an audacious claims
where is the evidence to substantiate them? The policing powers were removed
thanks to continual pressure from back benches. It is worth noting that unlike the Deputies
and Senators Connetables are not subject to the States of Jersey Law nor do
they take the same oath.
The retention of the
Constables IS compliant with the Venice Commission, which makes allowances for
different jurisdictions: “The geographical criterion and administrative, or
possibly even historical, boundaries may be taken into consideration.” Our
Parish boundaries are both administrative and historical and thus meet these
requirements.
The Venice Commission can be interpreted
as above but is hardly relevant to the Referendum. I am pretty confident that many Connetables would be elected if they stood shoulder to shoulder with other candidates and this would enhance their status. However voting yes will only perpetuate a system that is broken and will remain so for many years to come.
They are elected in their own districts, on the basis of their political views. Each Parish, as a corporate body, is represented in the States by its Constable similar to the way each Department is represented by its Minister.
Bob.
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Well done with another informative blog. Spot on as usual.
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http://noautocons.org/why-no/
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Proof that you can be a traditionalist AND believe in sound democratic principles
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(accepting that some band members may be in favour of "oui" ou "peut etre"
IMO anyone who genuinely believes in basic democratic principles would vote "NO" in the referendum on Constables AUTOMATIC states seat. A yes vote will just facilitate another team Bailhache hijack to erode our democracy further.
ReplyDeleteA YES vote will pave the way to change; This actually makes the referendum MORE IMPORTANT than the general election for the remaining candidates.
The sad truth is the makeup of the next government has already been decided by this years 11 (!!!) unelected Constables who make up such a large chunk of the next administration/selection.
The election is still important because it will help set the direction of island politics by determining the quality of opposition and scrutiny, and hopefully by unseating a few of the "Teflon Dons" who the heritage media support without question.
"A YES vote will pave the way to change"
DeleteI think you mean a NO vote.
YES, I did mean "NO" That was an unfortunate typo !
DeleteA "NO" vote will pave the way to change !!!!
Don't worry, I will concentrate in the voting booth
No, Non, Nein, Jo, Nee, La, Voch .....
Thanks Polo
Bob if there is a resounding NO vote and the same farce as last time occurs does this mean the twelve Constables will be voting (as States Members) whether 'they' should remain in the as an automatic right? The saying about Turkeys & Christmas springs to mind.
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DeleteI am afraid to say that the Connetables will be able to vote which shows just how bizarre the current system is and why States Members bring the whole issue into disrepute.
As an example the former Chamber gave approval to Daniel Wimberley’s proposition to appoint an independent Electoral Commission. However the present Chamber allowed itself to be beguiled by Senator Bailhache and overturned the decision and allowed him, a Connetable (Gallichan of St Mary) and a Connetable’s son (Deputy Baker) to be part of a 6 man panel.
Therefore it’s not surprising that there was a botched outcome. If the Connetables had any honour they would abstain from voting. What ever is the outcome of the referendum one can expect a block of 11 Connetables voting to retain the status quo.
I understand that Simon Crowcroft is the only Connetable who is supporting the No Vote
Thank you Bob, that is just as I feared, but surely should this matter come before a vote in the States Chamber the Constables would (should) abstain from voting by the clear parliamentary principal of 'conflict of interest' but more to the point this would have to be the most gross example of anti democracy there could ever be. As for the Constables 'knowing' their parishioners? well mine would not know me if he tripped over me, unlike his two predecessors who I knew (and still do)...what a complete and utter farce...power, this is all and what always will be what this is about.
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ReplyDeleteFor readers information.
I will be appearing on Radio Jersey’s Election Call tomorrow 10th October between noon and 1pm along with Rico Sorda and Harry McRandle.
Bob.
ReplyDeleteJersey Child Abuse Inquiry refuses to explain its CONTRADICTION.
Bob.
ReplyDeleteHelp save Jersey from the HIPPIES AND COMMUNISTS.
The action is an admission that it has failed in the past but there is little chance of the CoE actually admitting its failings.
ReplyDeleteBob. I think you are answering this
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Can't see the constables supporting this here.
http://www.exaronews.com/articles/5383/clergy-to-be-given-training-on-safeguarding-children-in-coe
UK canon law to be RE-WRITTEN to safeguard children etc
Bishops to be made RESPONSIBLE
Training to be given
Committees and churchwarden appointments etc. to be kept free of suspects
I thought I had posted the comment above, so yes my comment above is in response at 0059 is in response.
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