tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4596634218626697583.post5572016888107874929..comments2024-03-22T07:09:58.978+00:00Comments on Bob Hill Jersey Blog: Independent Jersey Care Inquiry (10)------The Crucial Missing Documents.Bob Hillhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01834363721495974167noreply@blogger.comBlogger41125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4596634218626697583.post-91991806538121897872015-07-13T08:25:28.508+01:002015-07-13T08:25:28.508+01:00Bob.
Jersey Child Abuse Inquiry adopts "THE ...Bob.<br /><br />Jersey Child Abuse Inquiry adopts <a href="http://voiceforchildren.blogspot.co.uk/2015/07/jersey-child-abuse-inquiry-adopts.html" rel="nofollow">"THE JERSEY WAY."</a>voiceforchildrenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16825129148579102037noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4596634218626697583.post-11755513563215648962015-07-12T15:58:54.318+01:002015-07-12T15:58:54.318+01:00Mike Higgins is one states member that is not afra...Mike Higgins is one states member that is not afraid to ask difficult questions ,unlike some politicians who are more concerned about their seats than the people who put them there. If only we had more states members like himAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4596634218626697583.post-80392179314765932122015-07-12T14:00:12.806+01:002015-07-12T14:00:12.806+01:00If you have read this blog you will realise that t...If you have read this blog you will realise that the questions are really relevant. Being fobbed off is par for the course but will not stop good members like Deputy Higgins from seeking answers. Bob Hillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01834363721495974167noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4596634218626697583.post-37098592557809736942015-07-12T13:56:12.527+01:002015-07-12T13:56:12.527+01:00If you know the facts, you will know it was not ju...If you know the facts, you will know it was not just down to emailing civil servants.Bob Hillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01834363721495974167noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4596634218626697583.post-18904764189300140492015-07-11T11:49:24.959+01:002015-07-11T11:49:24.959+01:00Syvret was voted out of his position by the Assemb...Syvret was voted out of his position by the Assembly after a debate on his behaviour after e-mailing civil servants. Lets at least try and keep to the facts.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4596634218626697583.post-44599021552244607712015-07-11T11:34:55.812+01:002015-07-11T11:34:55.812+01:00These questions are a waste of time and you know t...These questions are a waste of time and you know that.<br />The questionnaire is always fobbed off.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4596634218626697583.post-89184059183820759782015-07-11T09:24:04.331+01:002015-07-11T09:24:04.331+01:00
It is good to hear Deputy Mike Higgins is back at...<br />It is good to hear Deputy Mike Higgins is back at work following his illness and that he has lodged the question below which will be asked at the States Sitting on Tuesday.<br /><br />“Will the Chief Minister explain why two officers, appointed to liaise with the Committee of Inquiry for document provision, are present at the majority of hearings and explain how their normal duties are being covered, at what cost, and where the budget has been allocated from, and whether any concerns have been expressed regarding the potential impact of the attendance at hearings?”<br />Bob Hillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01834363721495974167noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4596634218626697583.post-79976889168523572622015-07-11T09:19:56.882+01:002015-07-11T09:19:56.882+01:00It would have been helpful if Simon had answered s...It would have been helpful if Simon had answered some of the questions asked in his blogs Comments. However the whistleblowing was a huge step in unfolding the abuse and cover ups which now come to light. Bob Hillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01834363721495974167noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4596634218626697583.post-33329599146988251962015-07-11T07:40:34.578+01:002015-07-11T07:40:34.578+01:00Simon Bellwood has been giving evidence to the CoI...Simon Bellwood has been giving evidence to the CoI<br /><br />His blog makes interesting reading<br /><br />http://simonbellwood.blogspot.co.uk/2008/04/intro.html<br /><br />It looks as if it was Bellwood's appeal for help to Health Minister Syvret which alerted him to the Dickensian attitude to child welfare and child protection.<br /><br />They had to get rid of Syvret because he saw through the lies of the responsible civil servants and started making his own inquries.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4596634218626697583.post-59447584363048253912015-07-09T22:52:40.027+01:002015-07-09T22:52:40.027+01:00Not about Stuart. About Greenfields:
http://simon...Not about Stuart. About Greenfields:<br /><br />http://simonbellwood.blogspot.co.uk/2008/04/stuart-syvret-my-opinion.html<br /><br /><br />"he [Syvret] responded as you would expect from a Politician.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />With integrity, respect and an open mind."<br /><br />[ That's actually very witty :-) ]Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4596634218626697583.post-48610744324445545682015-07-08T16:11:14.335+01:002015-07-08T16:11:14.335+01:00Thanks to both of you for your contributions and i...Thanks to both of you for your contributions and it’s good to have two intelligent opposing views. Getting rid of confidential documents is not advisable because once out of your control, you have no idea where they may end up. Shredding is by far the better option.<br /><br />Until the incoming Head admits to removing the documents or the real culprit comes forward, the removal will always be open to speculation.<br />Bob Hillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01834363721495974167noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4596634218626697583.post-24742474993014770482015-07-08T13:46:01.013+01:002015-07-08T13:46:01.013+01:00@18:02 Can we assume that you are the same comment...@18:02 Can we assume that you are the same commenter as above @20:30 ?<br /><br />20:30 says "I can tell you exactly what happened to the missing documents"............ "So there was never a conspiracy regarding the loss of these documents"<br /><br />18:02 says "When staff needed to refer to these records for Operation Rectangle they were found to be missing and the only conclusion was that they had gone into the skip."<br /><br /><br />...................right, so it is only an ASSUMPTION that the missing records went in the skip ?????<br /><br />Just one has to ask as abuse did happen (and in some states institutions this was sexual abuse, including some of the most bestial nature.) <br /><br /><br />Now, sexual abuse aside, please remind us what happened to Simon Bellwood when he objected to the abuse and dangerous and illegal practises he came across. How was this not a conspiracy???<br /><br />BTW, Thank you for commenting. It is valuable to have a view of both sides of the story and people should not forget that there were some good people working in children's services, and many just doing their best. Please continue to comment and readers please try not to be judgemental.Am I confused ........http://simonbellwood.blogspot.co.uk/2008/04/intro.htmlnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4596634218626697583.post-70749560769175676342015-07-07T18:02:00.252+01:002015-07-07T18:02:00.252+01:00The missing documents did not come to light for.so...The missing documents did not come to light for.so.long as the skip was removed by the contractors and following the resignation of the Head of Care there was a chaotic period during which an interim management team took over, then a temporary appointee, following which in 2006 Simon Bellwood was appointed to manage the newly built Greenfields. Because of all the changes nobody thought to enquire as to exactly what had been destroyed. When staff needed to refer to these records for Operation Rectangle they were found to be missing and the only conclusion was that they had gone into the skip.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4596634218626697583.post-76492490925304444052015-07-07T09:13:15.490+01:002015-07-07T09:13:15.490+01:00Bob.
Alleged rape victim attempted to take her ow...Bob.<br /><br />Alleged rape victim attempted to take her own life after experiencing <a href="http://voiceforchildren.blogspot.com/2015/07/jersey-continues-to-fail-abuse-rape.html" rel="nofollow">THE JERSEY WAY.</a>voiceforchildrenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16825129148579102037noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4596634218626697583.post-69701952001954589882015-07-06T22:03:14.149+01:002015-07-06T22:03:14.149+01:00Thank you for your explanation above.
If as you ...Thank you for your explanation above. <br /><br />If as you say that not only documents, but also fittings, library books, artwork etc were removed its surprising the matter did not come light until 2008, particularly as the Head left so soon after the removal.<br /><br />As mentioned in my blog I did read both reports and said they were revealing but the second Report made for more comfortable reading. I stand by that Comment. <br /><br />The removal of objects to establish a new regime reminded me of Brian Clough’s first few days at Leeds United in which he did something similar including removing photographs of successful teams, which did not go down with the players and staff. His regime only lasted 44 days. <br />Bob Hillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01834363721495974167noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4596634218626697583.post-72199779836025126522015-07-06T20:30:00.708+01:002015-07-06T20:30:00.708+01:00As a long term member of staff of Les Chenes schoo...As a long term member of staff of Les Chenes school who worked there during the Kathy Bull & transition to Greenfields era I can tell you exactly what happened to the missing documents. They were destroyed by the incoming Head of Care during August and September of 2003 when he thought that the best way to establish his regime was simply to throw away as much Les Chenes material as possible into a large skip. This included fixtures and fittings,library books, pupils artwork, and of course those documents. As he was unwilling/unable to communicate with the Les Chenes staff, the loss of the documents did not come to light until Operation Rectangle in 2008. Staff from Les Chenes would have been delighted had they been found as they would have provided and excellent contemporaneous account of how young people were treated in Les Chenes school. So there was never a conspiracy regarding the loss of these documents, it was down to the thoughtless action of a new appointee - who incidentally lasted approximately 8 weeks before quitting through stress, apparently. As to the Kathy Bull reports - the first one was simply to look at the running of Les Chenes school and nothing else. As a result of this report HMI Bull was commissioned to produce a further report into the SEBD provision right across the Island, which she duly did in considerable depth. Anyone taking the time to read both reports will see that the Les Chenes section of the second report is very similar indeed to the initial one. In no sense at all is it a watered down version, in fact if anything the second Bull Report is more damning as it examines the entire provision, not just one establishment. So for all the conspiracy theorists out there, sorry but there's nothing to report here. Do your homework and read the material before making judgements.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4596634218626697583.post-92130081158748511692015-07-04T14:07:29.776+01:002015-07-04T14:07:29.776+01:00Yes he was. He is also a long time friend and coll...Yes he was. He is also a long time friend and colleague of witness 7 and was also his line manager at one time , currently he is saying that witness 7 is innocent, the accusations are all lies. If he was attending sitting in a privileged seat during the testimony of the survivors this was most inappropriateAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4596634218626697583.post-21255426049220081252015-07-04T10:27:26.749+01:002015-07-04T10:27:26.749+01:00Bob, wasn't Tony Le Sueur involved with CAHMS ...Bob, wasn't Tony Le Sueur involved with CAHMS and after a damming scrutiny report got moved sideways?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4596634218626697583.post-86967915422453770632015-07-02T23:46:20.912+01:002015-07-02T23:46:20.912+01:00There are always a few sad people around who gain ...There are always a few sad people around who gain pleasure from sniping at those who have a different view, I agree with the comment above and would welcome something constructive from our blinkered friend.Bob Hillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01834363721495974167noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4596634218626697583.post-66388767149597340632015-07-02T23:01:09.564+01:002015-07-02T23:01:09.564+01:00RE. 3:59am & 9:50am, please see:
http://voicef...RE. 3:59am & 9:50am, please see:<br />http://voiceforchildren.blogspot.com/2015/06/mario-lundy-and-stuart-syvret-at-jersey.html?showComment=1435865835218#c8093588336415245304<br /><br />Good to see other readers spotting the 'lowest percentile' trolling at 3:59 in the morning. <br />I may be wrong but I suspect that it was the same 'gentleman' up at 9:50 next morning contributing more inane fog "As senior managers perhaps they made the decision to pay themselves their own salaries"<br />and five minutes later at 09:55 on VFC's blog it appears to even start having a discussion with itself :<br />"So much tittle tattle..........." 03:52am<br />"Its not tittle tattle..............." 09:55am<br /><br />Hilarious !<br /><br />If they actually have a point to make we would be grateful if they made it.Click HERE to listen to Jersey States death threat troll nail itselfhttp://therightofreply.blogspot.co.uk/2012/04/another-reminder-of-jerseys-freaks.htmlnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4596634218626697583.post-75907145945222971372015-07-02T19:50:24.380+01:002015-07-02T19:50:24.380+01:00Bob - I would suggest to Anonymous at 3.59 that he...Bob - I would suggest to Anonymous at 3.59 that he/she attends the Public Hearings or reads the transcripts of evidence that are readily available on line before he/she passes any sort of judgement.<br /><br />Bob is not being negative in any way, shape or form and is only assessing the evidence that has been heard by the CoI, which becomes more 'enlightening' as the hearings go on. <br /><br />A lot of interesting and disturbing evidence is coming to light, and nobody as I see it is trying to 'influence' it. As Bob so rightly says, get those blinkers off and get on down there if you are so interested.Jill Gracianoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4596634218626697583.post-24650947596024799892015-07-02T11:01:54.408+01:002015-07-02T11:01:54.408+01:00There have been a number of very efficient Scrutin...There have been a number of very efficient Scrutiny Reviews conducted with very pertinent recommendations which have been ignored.<br /><br />I was an enthusiastic supporter of Scrutiny when it was first set up and a Panel Chairman. However it soon became apparent that Scrutiny had no teeth and unlike the Executive where there is solidarity, too many Chairmen were looking at Scrutiny as a step to a Ministerial positions, did not want to the rock the boat or even support other Chairmen if they lodged propositions.<br /><br />One only has to read Rico Sorda's latest blog to see that regretfully Scrutiny is now very much a waste of time and money.Bob Hillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01834363721495974167noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4596634218626697583.post-31555144373806288212015-07-02T10:51:10.312+01:002015-07-02T10:51:10.312+01:00Sorry but I don't think that such a suggestion...Sorry but I don't think that such a suggestion is possible. Bob Hillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01834363721495974167noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4596634218626697583.post-21056331503455047892015-07-02T10:49:40.397+01:002015-07-02T10:49:40.397+01:00I know he has not done so, so far and I don't ...I know he has not done so, so far and I don't know if he is a witness, but the COI will have copies of all the relevant Reports.Bob Hillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01834363721495974167noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4596634218626697583.post-4922455187420274742015-07-02T09:50:10.221+01:002015-07-02T09:50:10.221+01:00As senior managers perhaps they made the decision ...As senior managers perhaps they made the decision to pay themselves their own salaries.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com