tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4596634218626697583.post3496254454755139489..comments2024-03-22T07:09:58.978+00:00Comments on Bob Hill Jersey Blog: Jersey's Elections (1) ------Apathy Ahoy??Bob Hillhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01834363721495974167noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4596634218626697583.post-59235665456782031262014-09-28T09:17:46.522+01:002014-09-28T09:17:46.522+01:00Bob.
Deputy Sam Mezec unelected States Members pa...Bob.<br /><br />Deputy Sam Mezec unelected States Members part two. <a href="http://voiceforchildren.blogspot.com/2014/09/deputy-sam-mezec-unelected-states_28.html" rel="nofollow">CONSTABLES.</a>voiceforchildrenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16825129148579102037noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4596634218626697583.post-42820738192608455072014-09-25T20:22:37.212+01:002014-09-25T20:22:37.212+01:00Good Evening Antonio, thank you for comment which ...Good Evening Antonio, thank you for comment which thanks to Google I publish the English version below but where is the "Pilgrim and Servant"<br /><br />Lovely blog, liked what I saw and read, and already give you kudos, also thank you for sharing your knowledge, if you think it is worth visiting the Pilgrim And Servant, also if you want part of my virtual friends do it so that can find your blog, so you can also follow your blog. Peace. António Batalha. on Jersey's Elections (1Bob Hillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01834363721495974167noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4596634218626697583.post-84829080890604389472014-09-24T10:05:44.013+01:002014-09-24T10:05:44.013+01:00If readers would like to view the Hustings thet ca...If readers would like to view the Hustings thet can do so by clicking on to the Vote.je link above Bob Hillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01834363721495974167noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4596634218626697583.post-9013571563786454382014-09-23T23:23:33.911+01:002014-09-23T23:23:33.911+01:00Unfortunately because the Electoral Commission was...Unfortunately because the Electoral Commission was hijacked we now have a half cocked referendum which if the Yes vote wins will stifle any reform for years to come.Bob Hillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01834363721495974167noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4596634218626697583.post-18516963243438497512014-09-23T12:12:46.579+01:002014-09-23T12:12:46.579+01:00I read Tom as saying a NO vote might open the way...I read Tom as saying a NO vote might open the way to reform whereas a YES vote would just enshrine the status quo?Pólóhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08661092894104384856noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4596634218626697583.post-3441678054952569962014-09-23T06:59:30.981+01:002014-09-23T06:59:30.981+01:00Bob,
I wont hold my breath waiting for the Conneta...Bob,<br />I wont hold my breath waiting for the Connetables to arrange referendum meetings.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4596634218626697583.post-30485979499767557942014-09-23T06:58:00.191+01:002014-09-23T06:58:00.191+01:00Thanks for your comment and you are right to say t...Thanks for your comment and you are right to say that a No vote could shut the door for reform. It is an issue of sentiment rather than logic and I fear that unless enough thinkers who come out the Connetables and as a consequence the position of the Senators will remain.Bob Hillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01834363721495974167noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4596634218626697583.post-75297422235697895202014-09-22T20:28:38.705+01:002014-09-22T20:28:38.705+01:00The Referendum Question is simply "Should Con...The Referendum Question is simply "Should Constables remain as members of the States as an automatic right?" and the answer options are just Yes or No. So not much scope for expressing concerns about wider issues. The voting public must respond with a "NO" and allow the full consideration of reforming the whole system for another day but to vote yes can only condemn the Island to future decades of democracy denied. <br />The Vote No campaign is doing its best to present some of the issues and the 11 Constables returned without even a contest at the polls should speak volumes - but with a population that has not grasped (to a large extent) that Constables are paid £46,000 from central funds to sit in the States having been elected by their Parishes only - it is a very difficult path. <br />That CM Gorst has failed to deliver the Independent Election Monitors as promised in the States must also be significant. This is the very first General Election held in Jersey and it has a Referendum on top too so the need for inspection and reporting was never greater from the first nominations to the final count...we have it within our own hands to change things just as Jersey people did on 28 September 1769 - Jersey Reform Day - but we have to be prepared and brave enough to demand change.Tom Gruchyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01384387998228996741noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4596634218626697583.post-6248455496116780242014-09-22T11:53:21.011+01:002014-09-22T11:53:21.011+01:00You are correct about the Bailiff/Speaker deciding...You are correct about the Bailiff/Speaker deciding who can speak and I found it frustrating not being called to speak, this was particularly annoying during Question Time.<br /><br />The Bailiff/Speaker no longer has the casting vote. If a vote is tied, it is lost.<br /><br />The Governor does have the right but generally only exercises that right to speak at the start and end of their posting.<br /><br />I am afraid that both the Solicitor and Attorney Generals are no better or worse than most of the Ministers when it comes to answering questions.Bob Hillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01834363721495974167noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4596634218626697583.post-53428878972593095462014-09-22T11:44:19.882+01:002014-09-22T11:44:19.882+01:00I don't know who advised them and perhaps a re...I don't know who advised them and perhaps a reader might know the answer.Bob Hillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01834363721495974167noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4596634218626697583.post-21982299591806918052014-09-22T11:29:00.951+01:002014-09-22T11:29:00.951+01:00Right on the money as usual Mr. Hill.
Just a coup...Right on the money as usual Mr. Hill.<br /><br />Just a couple of points regarding "...where the unelected Dean, Solicitor and Attorney General, Lieutenant Governor, Bailiff and his Deputy all sit in the same Assembly and have the right to speak."<br /><br />The Bailiff apparently also has the "right" to decide who speaks and even what questions can be asked.<br />During his time as Bailiff Philip Bailhache apparently awarded himself the right to switch off member's microphones in extreme circumstances such as a member expressing regret and concern for Jersey's many victims of decades of institutional child abuse.<br /><br />I believe the Bailiff also has the casting vote?<br /><br />I am not sure if the Lieutenant Governor generally has the right to speak or whether they can only do so in particular circumstances or upon invitation?<br /><br />The Attorney General may have a right to speak but it has become clear that even though he is there to advise the house, the other members do NOT have a right to answers to clear questions put to him. It seems he can answer if, and to what extent he pleases, perhaps at the discretion of the unelected Bailiff.<br /><br />A long tradition of toytown politics.Democratic Deficithttp://notthestatemedia.blogspot.co.uk/2014/09/le-cornu-state-media-its-not-what-you.htmlnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4596634218626697583.post-26476460517253459022014-09-22T11:22:44.979+01:002014-09-22T11:22:44.979+01:00Bob.
"why were they sitting as a body at the...Bob.<br /><br />"why were they sitting as a body at the Senatorial Nomination evening. Why were they there, who asked them and how could they justify being there?"<br /><br />It is my understanding that the unelected, and unaccountable, Attorney Generals Office told them to be there.<br /><br />voiceforchildrenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16825129148579102037noreply@blogger.com